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Shafer Parker's avatar

Once again, Murray, you have put your finger on the sore spot of those who insist on "machine consciousness ex nihilo." Without citing any references (I, too, am working with an aging, slowing brain), my memory is that biological research is more and more revealing that consciousness is not a result of brain functioning, that it lies elsewhere and that the brain is perhaps a connecting point between the body and the mind. Kurzweil, for all his brilliance, is a desperate man (just google "Kurzweil vitamin regimen"), and desperate men don't think too well (see "clutching at straws").

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Mike Byfield's avatar

Hi all

Plenty of apparently unintelligent creatures are alive, notably single-cell microbes (and atheists — just kidding), and they all have sufficient consciousness to respond to external stimuli. There's no reason to believe that a machine which calculates with unprecedented speed will come alive any more than a vacuum cleaner which sucks with unprecedented power. Why do some folk focus on intelligence as the crucial factor in consciousness? In part because humanity is infatuated with its own exceptional intelligence, I would guess. Another factor is glaringly obvious: no science has yet come up with even the most feeble empirically verifiable explanation as to how life and consciousness did come to exist within this universe.

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